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Old 09-14-2008, 10:11 PM
Morganton Morganton is offline
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I dont think anybody wants the chain restaurants, but they want good local restaurants that can attract customers. I dont believe the chain restaurants will come in if only beer & wine is allowed.
Look at Dahlonega they have allowed beer and wine and maintain their quaint and charm.
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:51 PM
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Thank you John for your well written, thoughtful response. I do agree that change is inevitable and that revitalization in Fannin County is both needed and desired.

I went to London last year and was mildly disturbed by the frequent encounters one has with Starbucks. If you have been there recently, you know that I am not exagerating; there is a Starbucks approximately every two blocks. That surely was not something I had anticipated. Where were the pubs?

Having arrived rather late in the evening, my boyfriend and I were obliged to eat dinner at the Hard Rock Cafe, as it was the only restaurant open within walking distrance from our hotel. My first night in London and I couldn't tell if I was in New York City, London, or Atlanta; the place was exactly the same.

I counter the premise that changing the alcohol law will bring "better" restaurants into the county. Ruby Tuesdays, Applebees, Longhorn Steakhouse, Hooters, Outback Steakhouse, and Red Lobster are really not that much better than fast food restaurants, they are just higher up on the food chain. Just like the Hard Rock Cafe, if you have been to one, you have been to them all. Do the majority of people who want alcohol really believe that having those types of restaurants represents progress, improvement, and quality?

What this type of progress constitutes is homogeneity...the same chain restaurants up and down the highways from Canton to Ellijay, Savannah to Miami, Chicago to Seattle, and Phoenix to LA.

I have been fortunate to be a "tourist" in many different locations across the country and around the world. I, and I believe most travelers who are away from home, seek out experiences and opportunities that are different and divergent from the familiar. Isn't it the distinct and unusual that make traveling exciting and extraordinary?

Caution for changing the alcohol law is not selfish but rather forward thinking. As a community, there still remains an opportunity to keep Blue Ridge unconventional, special, and unique for all the residents and tourists. My vision is unobstructed. What we both will see is that once those mediocre chain establishments are operating here, Blue Ridge and Fannin County will be devoid of distinction and relegated to ordinary and undistinguishable from every other place.
Your points are very true and well thought out - and I wholeheartedly agree about the issue of tasteless chain restaurants. However, what also has to happen is to enact and enforce some sort of architectural review and design standards to prevent this from happening in certain districts.

Again, lets look at Dahlonega, a very close example that shares many similarities with Blue Ridge - if Outback decided that they were going to open a store right smack-dab on the square it wouldn't happen - why not? Dahlonega serves all types of alcohol in restaurants by the drink, right? Well, the fact is that that alcohol sales in restaurants has nothing to do with preserving a towns "quaintness" or whatever you choose to call it. Property use and Architectural Standards do. The fact of the matter is that most chain restaurants (like any retailer) have a certain real estate space or pad site requirement that will dictate where they can or can't locate - or if they are going into an existing space or building, they will have to have a certain amount of space to even consider it. Most buildings in downtown BR would not even qualify - they are too small. Most of these places are suited to be on the Highway where they belong (like Ellijay). What people dont include in this argument about degrading the "quaintness" of Blue Ridge is that as it is now any and all tacky fast food restaurants can come in, set up shop and start operating and degrade the quality of the town anyway. What's the difference?

Again, look at Dahlonega - a similar North Georgia community - has it gone to the dogs since they allowed alcohol sales in restaurants? No! It's only gotten better, has more quality small, individual unique restaurants downtown on the square and elsewhere and is attracting more and more QUALITY transplants, businesses and revenue to the area.

People should look at these examples below - Telluride, CO is another American example of a small town maintaining its charm, but allowing tourism to flourish and good restaurants to operate serving alcohol by the drink - look at the links below.

Telluride Restaurants | Telluride.com

Dahlonega-Lumpkin County - Home

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Old 09-16-2008, 08:41 PM
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Almost as important important as my individual liberties....the "chain" resturants, how ever tastefully they are required to establish their businesses, will bring jobs, construction, staff, lawn maintenence, management, etc and encourage other businesses...not important to the monied transplants or the sell out land owners here who've paid for their kids college/careers,...new jobs are very important to the majority of the locals who live at the poverty level, bet on it...I've got tons of customers and friends that would give their right arm to find a job that they can make enough at to raise a family in their home county...development can be done tastefully and help the locals. Fannin county lags so far behind the rest of the state.
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Old 12-09-2008, 07:12 AM
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vote for absolutely yes!I really have a good feeling that it will pass!
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Old 12-09-2008, 07:29 PM
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The Fannin County Board of Commissioners sans Mr. Morris (he was supposed to be "out of town") voted for a pouring license for Fannin Co. to enable capturing the $40 million dollar contract.


The commission chairman explained how he wrested with the decision because he had promised several family members and friends he would not vote for a pouring license. The unemployment statistics swayed him.
We're at 7.1 unemployment rate (Union is highest and it's totally dry) and expected to climb to 9%.
There will be a hearing next week and then it will be passed before the next commissioners come into office.
As commented by a neighbor in attendance.

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Old 12-09-2008, 07:36 PM
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>>There will be a hearing next week and then it will be passed before the next commissioners come into office.

The big question: can the new county commissioners overturn it?

PS: In regards to this thread's topic, the city council said no 3-2. It was a 2-2 tie, and the mayor voted no.
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:10 PM
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Sorry for the confusion meant the post for county not city.
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:24 PM
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Not at all Morganton, thanks for the report better-than but confirming mine. You gave me the idea of splitting the threads by reviving this one--2 votes, crazy night!

The "PS:" was just adding some relevancy for incoming readers because I linked to it as PASS/FAIL from here: Blue Ridge, Georgia USA

Oh yea, CHEERS!
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Old 12-10-2008, 06:50 AM
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Does anyone know if the newly elected Board of Commissioners will be able to overturn this? I hope not. But like I said before most of these county leaders would willingly allow tens of thousands of jobs leave this area if it meant that they wouldn't get one irate phone call from a church parishioner.

P.S. By the way what is Morris' re-election campaign platform going to be?: "Vote for me and I'll continue to fight against economic growth, economic prosperity, and the right to never be present when a semi- difficult/controversial decision is to be made." Folks he needs to be gone next time. GONE!!! Adios Muchacho. Thanks for all you never did.

P.S.S. Have a drink on me
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Old 12-10-2008, 08:23 AM
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I've heard from a source that said that the county was going to levy a $5000 licensing fee for beer and wine. I do not know if that is a one time fee or to be annually paid. I also heard that they may limit the license to only certain types of franchise restaurants. (Leave it up to the county to approve something and then make it nearly impossible to obtain.)

In other news, why in the wide, wide world of sports would the city decide to give the proverbial middle finger to all of its restaurants and businesses and vote to not allow beer and wine in their own restaurants? I mean I understand that before they knew that people didn't have a choice but after hearing that the county voted for it why would they basically dare businesses to pack up and leave for higher ground? Remember there is no cure for stupidity.

P.S. Doesn't the mayor know that wine and beer goes good with chicken. Bon appétit!

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